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IC and Yogurt: 7 Ways to Optimize Digestion

couple feeding yogurtFrom an energy science point of view the IC bladder pain syndrome( interstitial cystitis, vulvodynia, chronic prostatitis, IBS, GERD, and fibromyalgia)  is a Vata and Pitta provoked disease, that is, too much hot and mobile qualities in the urinary tract – an imbalance created by the foods consumed   So the obvious first step is to reduce those foods that are Pitta and Vata provoking  When first getting started to get some relief from the burning sensation you can begin with just a Pitta pacifying nutritional format as at icdiet.com but as you progress using a format that is appropriate for you energy constitutional makeup can be found at foodsheal.com after taking the test

One particular thread that I have seen come up is the question about IC and yogurt   How should it be used and whether it is safe in IC, that is, whether it is Vata and Pitta provoking, causing bladder pain

Yogurt is an amazing food and many ethinic cultures on the planet use fresh yogurt and kefir as health promoting foods in their nutrition   And there are very good reasons for doing so but due to the Pitta aggravating nature of yogurt, freshly made is the only way to go in moderation

Helping Restore Imbalanced Agni

The value of yogurt is that it serves when freshly made a rich source of probiotic which is a population of “good bacteria” that reside in the bowel  “Bad” bacteria at times overgrow the gut flora leading to poor digestion, absorption, and assimilation so it’s important that the good flora flourishes and the bad are kept in check   As I’ve alluded to in the past, bacterial growth is a major part of our digestive strength that needs to be nourished

This is particularly important if you have GERD, IBS, and fibromyalgia associated with IC since the digestive fire is significantly compromised in these dual conditions

Regular use of freshly made yogurt insures that the “good” bacteria are consistently replenished  Agni is always compromised in these conditions and since the bacterial flora is part of agni it’s important to supplement with probiotic foods such as yogurt  SIBO(small intestinal bacterial overgrowth) is commonly thought of as the root cause of many bowel diseases but from an energy science perspective it’s just saying that agni is disturbed

You may have heard of yeast overgrowth and this is yet another factor that can lead to poor digestive fire(eliminating yeast laden bread products is a good idea in that it gives us more  than we need so flatbreads are best or at least toasting yeasted products)  This candidal imbalance in bowel flora much like SIBO is a result of poor agni  So building up agni is one of the central therapeutic themes in the management of the IC bladder pain syndrome

Bowel flora is important in the concept of digestive fire and aids in bowel digestive function as well as providing important nutrients for our nutrition

Pasteurized yogurts should be avoided as pasteurization kills off the beneficial probiotic component of yogurt

Making Digestion Easy By Predigestion-Optimizing Digestive Strength

The value of yogurt comes in the predigestion of lactose and casein which we talked about a couple of days ago  Hence the bacteria during the incubation phase of creating yogurt use the sugar lactose and break down the protein casein  The lactose then doesn’t bother the lactose intolerant and the casomorphin derivative from casein digestion can be less, hence affecting us less

Why freshly made?  From an energy science view the build up of acidity occurs with aging yogurt even if refrigerated becomes inflammatory and thus Pitta provoking   You also get the maximal amount of probiotic in the yogurt(some bacteria die off after 4-5 days)

Even though fresh yogurt is not very acidic(sour taste) it still can be Pitta provoking if used daily   Hence home made yogurt has its consumption limitations

So Some Guidelines

1 Based on the foodsheal.com food combining list, don’t use fruit with yogurt

2 To really inhibit the negative sour effects of even freshly made yogurt, the use of Sucanat or Turbinado(crystallized cane sugars) can be important because the sweet taste helps balance the aggravating sour taste

3 Always use yogurt in moderation, that is, 2-3x per week

4 Store bought and therefore processed yogurt is too acidic and will provoke IC

5 Diluting the yogurt with water reduces its acidity

6 Keeping in the fridge after it comes from the incubation phase will help get the yogurt firmer

7  For best results use whole mil

How to get started

Buy a yogurt maker(Donvier is a French brand or other various manufacturers can be found on Amazon)   Using fresh starter each time ensures that the bacterial count of the yogurt will be rich  The small amount of starter is not enough to aggravate Pitta

And yes, it does take some time to make your own yogurt but after doing it, in a short time you can do a batch in about 15 minutes(total time; heating the milk and cooling it can be done while doing other things)

If the yogurt is curdly and clearly not smooth in texture it means that there’s probably too much cooking going on and that the incubation times are too long  So try 10 hours instead of 12 hours with the Donvier

YouTube has several videos on how to make your own yogurt

It’s best not to use dry milk powder as the milk product as it is provoking to Vata Pitta

Here’s a link for directions on making your own for trouble shooting

The greatest value is making your own yogurt is that you participate in your own health and this is a small but significant step in assuming responsibility for our health

 

IC and Ways to Reduce Inflammatory Behaviors

Posted by on Nov 13, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic fatigue syndrome, chronic pelvic pain syndrome, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, Uncategorized, vulvodynia | 2 comments

IC and Ways to Reduce Inflammatory Behaviors

From an energy science view the symptoms of interstitial cystitis(IC) are related to the hot quality among others   The burning on urination that feels like razor blades, the suprapubic or vaginal pain, the perineal pain of prostatitis are all related to this energetic quality that is in excess At this blog I have discussed extensively how the nutritional format is fundamental in clearing symptoms   From my research 91% of patients doing aloe and a nutritional format that reduces this hot quality get 50% relief of symptoms in 6 weeks But...

read more

Expectations About Healing IC

Posted by on Sep 16, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, Uncategorized, vulvodynia | 2 comments

Expectations About Healing IC

Obviously this is a common question posed by those doing energy science work for clearance of their IC complex of bladder pain and possibly IBS, GERD and fibromyalgia As a child you may have asked, “Are we there yet?” and “Now are we there yet?”  So when will this IC be over?   The short answer is, “It’s over when it’s over.”  But to be more specific, in general it takes 2 months of release for every year of imbalance   So if you have had symptoms of IC for 10 years it will take 20 months of work to clear the...

read more

3 Therapies to Heal IC

Posted by on Sep 10, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, vulvodynia | 0 comments

3 Therapies to Heal IC

The IC bladder pain syndrome(interstitial cystitis, vulvodynia, prostatitis, IBS, GERD, and fibromyalgia) produces not only bladder pain that can be intermittent(as in flares) but also often involves the vaginal canal(vulvodynia),  pelvic floor muscles, and often the rectum   And as is common with all people with IC there are some forms of bowel involvement with symptoms since from an energy science point of view the disease arises from the GI tract The Rectum and the Pelvic Nerves? IC is a systemic disease  Many matter science medical...

read more

IC and Botox Injections

Posted by on Aug 21, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, vulvodynia | 4 comments

IC and Botox Injections

Over the last 20 years the interstitital cystitis(IC) complex of pelvic and bladder pain has been successfully treated by urologists with botox  Initially used as a way to focally paralyze muscle fibers in the face as a cosmetic application, it quickly crossed many lines of therapy for use in other organ systems in the body to include the bladder The use of the agent in bladder injection therapy is that the bladder and pelvic pain is related to muscle spasm in these respective areas that paralysis of the muscles would reduce the pain Matter...

read more

The Good News About IC

Posted by on Jul 23, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, Uncategorized, vulvodynia | 5 comments

The Good News About IC

The pain of your IC flare is related to the movement of the qualities of hot, mobile, and dry   These qualities lead to the burning in the pelvis and on urination as well as the frequency and intense urgency you experience(leading to the rusty zipper syndrome) These primordial vibrational frequencies(fancy term for qualities) are moving through a long tube in the mindbody   This tube begins in the kidney and ends where the urine comes out when you urinate   It’s that simple!    Energy in the form of urine moves through this...

read more

IC and Cooling Drink

Posted by on Jun 25, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, Uncategorized, vulvodynia | 8 comments

IC and Cooling Drink

The inflammation that occurs with your IC bladder pain syndrome(interstitial cystitis, vulvodynia, chronic prostatitis, GERD, IBS, and fibromyalgia) as we’ve talked about in the past is from the hot and mobile qualities from an energy science viewpoint As you know this pain can be excruciating and unrelenting causing undue stress on relationships and plans And there are things that we have discussed that can help with temporary relief of symptoms  But what would it be like it you lived a life without any bladder symptoms at all  This...

read more

IC and Vulvodynia/Chronic Prostatitis

Posted by on Jun 20, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, vulvodynia | 29 comments

IC and Vulvodynia/Chronic Prostatitis

As you know the pelvic pain from IC can be so severe that it precludes having normal sexual activity  In a survey done through the ICA organization 90% of IC patients report problems with intimacy   And the majority of women(50-85%) have associated vulvodynia or pain specifically related to the vagina  For reasons not clear, ICA dropped the reference page to this statistic  The stats come from a response survey of an IC population culled from members of the organization  This numbers have been substantiated by other research The fear of...

read more

IC and 3 Things to Deal with Food Allergies

Posted by on Jun 14, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, CPPS, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, Uncategorized, vulvodynia | 11 comments

IC and 3 Things to Deal with Food Allergies

Interstitial cystitis (IC) painvsyndrome(intersitial cystitis, vulvodynia, chronic prostatitis, IBS, GERD, fibromyalgia)  is often associated with other conditions such as  food allergies or sensitivities and GERD which we have written about in the past   This is difficult to understand from a molecular approach to dis-ease since the model looks at the problem within an organ system without taking into consideration the interrelationship of all organ systems This is frustrating to physicians as well as patients seeking to understand the...

read more

The Upsetting Character of Nuts

Posted by on Jun 4, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, vulvodynia | 2 comments

The Upsetting Character of Nuts

The interstitial cystitis(IC) bladder pain syndrome(interstitial cystitis, vulvodynia, chronic prostatitis, IBS, GERD, fibromyalgia)with flares can be amplified by the routine use of nuts of any kind and this includes their butters!!  Peanut butter, almond butter, cashew butter Why? Unlike the matter science(MS) nutritional information that fatty acids are good and bad, the energy science(ES) of Ayurveda states that all nuts are inflammatory due to these molecular fatty acids regardless of the “good or bad nature of them”   The...

read more

IC and the Neti Pot

Posted by on May 14, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, vulvodynia | 5 comments

IC and the Neti Pot

Kapha is the energy pattern of stability in the physiology  It is composed of the qualities of heavy, slow/dull, cool, slimy/smooth, liquid, dense, soft, hard, static, and sticky  Think of the mucous from the common cold and you will have a good understanding of the qualities of Kapha which supports bodily structures When Kapha becomes excessive in the physiology it brings the static and heavy qualities in excess which block the lighter qualities of Vata and Pitta which are the primary instigators of the symptoms of the IC bladder pain...

read more

IC and Anitiinflammatory Cocktail

The inflammation that occurs with your IC pain as we’ve talked about in the past is from the hot and moThe bad guybile qualities from an energy science viewpoint

As you know this pain can be excruciating and unrelenting causing undue stress on relationships and plans

And there are things that we have discussed that can help with temporary relief of symptoms  But what would it be like it you lived a life without any bladder symptoms at all  This is the cure of the apparent curable condition of IC

The Hot Quality

As we’ve mentioned before the human energy anatomy Ayurveda says that there are three energy patterns that give us function  The Vata, Pitta, and Kapha physiologic energies gives the body movement, transformation, and stability respectively

Pitta the energy of transformation is the only one of the three energy patterns that has the hot vibrational frequency  This energy of transformation is responsible for your flares  Makes sense doesn’t it?  Hot transforms right?   But too much of this energy produces IC   Burning wood, burning thoughts, burning stomach burning bladder, burning pelvis, burning vagina  Holy smoke!  Burned up relationships!

This is the energy that slso makes us competitive but if more hot enters into the equation it leads to aggressive behaviors that turn people off

Choosing Hot

So when it’s hot in the environment the same hot is aggravated in our own mindbody energy field   And when you eat trigger foods the same thing happens whether we can appreciate it or not  That’s why the food guidelines are so important because sometimes you can’t appreciate what’s happening

The hot from the sun is never as long term provoking as the hot that we ingest   As I’ve discussed in other blogs consumption of the hot quality has a much longer staying power of influence  This is a very important point since the physiology is affected literally for 35 days after a trigger food is chosen to be ingested

What happens when too much hot is in the energy physiology? You guessed it! INFLAMMATION

What To Do  What To Do

Sooo…. here’s a recipe for a delicious cooling herbal cocktail that you may find valuable particularly during flare seasons

2T of aloe vera gel(NOT the juice)

2oz of pomegranite juice

2oz of water

Chug a lug! Hmmmm delissios

Here’s to cooling off

IC and Ways to Reduce Inflammatory Behaviors

Posted by on Nov 13, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic fatigue syndrome, chronic pelvic pain syndrome, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, Uncategorized, vulvodynia | 2 comments

IC and Ways to Reduce Inflammatory Behaviors

From an energy science view the symptoms of interstitial cystitis(IC) are related to the hot quality among others   The burning on urination that feels like razor blades, the suprapubic or vaginal pain, the perineal pain of prostatitis are all related to this energetic quality that is in excess At this blog I have discussed extensively how the nutritional format is fundamental in clearing symptoms   From my research 91% of patients doing aloe and a nutritional format that reduces this hot quality get 50% relief of symptoms in 6 weeks But...

read more

Expectations About Healing IC

Posted by on Sep 16, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, Uncategorized, vulvodynia | 2 comments

Expectations About Healing IC

Obviously this is a common question posed by those doing energy science work for clearance of their IC complex of bladder pain and possibly IBS, GERD and fibromyalgia As a child you may have asked, “Are we there yet?” and “Now are we there yet?”  So when will this IC be over?   The short answer is, “It’s over when it’s over.”  But to be more specific, in general it takes 2 months of release for every year of imbalance   So if you have had symptoms of IC for 10 years it will take 20 months of work to clear the...

read more

3 Therapies to Heal IC

Posted by on Sep 10, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, vulvodynia | 0 comments

3 Therapies to Heal IC

The IC bladder pain syndrome(interstitial cystitis, vulvodynia, prostatitis, IBS, GERD, and fibromyalgia) produces not only bladder pain that can be intermittent(as in flares) but also often involves the vaginal canal(vulvodynia),  pelvic floor muscles, and often the rectum   And as is common with all people with IC there are some forms of bowel involvement with symptoms since from an energy science point of view the disease arises from the GI tract The Rectum and the Pelvic Nerves? IC is a systemic disease  Many matter science medical...

read more

IC and Botox Injections

Posted by on Aug 21, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, vulvodynia | 4 comments

IC and Botox Injections

Over the last 20 years the interstitital cystitis(IC) complex of pelvic and bladder pain has been successfully treated by urologists with botox  Initially used as a way to focally paralyze muscle fibers in the face as a cosmetic application, it quickly crossed many lines of therapy for use in other organ systems in the body to include the bladder The use of the agent in bladder injection therapy is that the bladder and pelvic pain is related to muscle spasm in these respective areas that paralysis of the muscles would reduce the pain Matter...

read more

The Good News About IC

Posted by on Jul 23, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, Uncategorized, vulvodynia | 5 comments

The Good News About IC

The pain of your IC flare is related to the movement of the qualities of hot, mobile, and dry   These qualities lead to the burning in the pelvis and on urination as well as the frequency and intense urgency you experience(leading to the rusty zipper syndrome) These primordial vibrational frequencies(fancy term for qualities) are moving through a long tube in the mindbody   This tube begins in the kidney and ends where the urine comes out when you urinate   It’s that simple!    Energy in the form of urine moves through this...

read more

IC and Cooling Drink

Posted by on Jun 25, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, Uncategorized, vulvodynia | 8 comments

IC and Cooling Drink

The inflammation that occurs with your IC bladder pain syndrome(interstitial cystitis, vulvodynia, chronic prostatitis, GERD, IBS, and fibromyalgia) as we’ve talked about in the past is from the hot and mobile qualities from an energy science viewpoint As you know this pain can be excruciating and unrelenting causing undue stress on relationships and plans And there are things that we have discussed that can help with temporary relief of symptoms  But what would it be like it you lived a life without any bladder symptoms at all  This...

read more

IC and Vulvodynia/Chronic Prostatitis

Posted by on Jun 20, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, vulvodynia | 29 comments

IC and Vulvodynia/Chronic Prostatitis

As you know the pelvic pain from IC can be so severe that it precludes having normal sexual activity  In a survey done through the ICA organization 90% of IC patients report problems with intimacy   And the majority of women(50-85%) have associated vulvodynia or pain specifically related to the vagina  For reasons not clear, ICA dropped the reference page to this statistic  The stats come from a response survey of an IC population culled from members of the organization  This numbers have been substantiated by other research The fear of...

read more

IC and 3 Things to Deal with Food Allergies

Posted by on Jun 14, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, CPPS, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, Uncategorized, vulvodynia | 11 comments

IC and 3 Things to Deal with Food Allergies

Interstitial cystitis (IC) painvsyndrome(intersitial cystitis, vulvodynia, chronic prostatitis, IBS, GERD, fibromyalgia)  is often associated with other conditions such as  food allergies or sensitivities and GERD which we have written about in the past   This is difficult to understand from a molecular approach to dis-ease since the model looks at the problem within an organ system without taking into consideration the interrelationship of all organ systems This is frustrating to physicians as well as patients seeking to understand the...

read more

The Upsetting Character of Nuts

Posted by on Jun 4, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, vulvodynia | 2 comments

The Upsetting Character of Nuts

The interstitial cystitis(IC) bladder pain syndrome(interstitial cystitis, vulvodynia, chronic prostatitis, IBS, GERD, fibromyalgia)with flares can be amplified by the routine use of nuts of any kind and this includes their butters!!  Peanut butter, almond butter, cashew butter Why? Unlike the matter science(MS) nutritional information that fatty acids are good and bad, the energy science(ES) of Ayurveda states that all nuts are inflammatory due to these molecular fatty acids regardless of the “good or bad nature of them”   The...

read more

IC and the Neti Pot

Posted by on May 14, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, vulvodynia | 5 comments

IC and the Neti Pot

Kapha is the energy pattern of stability in the physiology  It is composed of the qualities of heavy, slow/dull, cool, slimy/smooth, liquid, dense, soft, hard, static, and sticky  Think of the mucous from the common cold and you will have a good understanding of the qualities of Kapha which supports bodily structures When Kapha becomes excessive in the physiology it brings the static and heavy qualities in excess which block the lighter qualities of Vata and Pitta which are the primary instigators of the symptoms of the IC bladder pain...

read more

IC and Pain Control: 5 Steps to Deal With Pain

External pelvic painIn the energy science of Ayurveda imbalance of qualities such as hot, cold, heavy, light affect the metabolic fire called agni  When this happens the end result is a toxic morbid substance called ama  This is essence is how disease occurs in the energy model discipline

In the IC bladder pain syndrome(interstitial cystitis, vulvodynia, chronic prostatitis, IBS, GERD, and fibromyalgia) the qualities of mobile and hot lead to early symptoms of the disease complex but as progression occurs more qualities become involved and deeper tissues become affected due to the mounting amount of ama

Clogging of Energy Channels

When energy channels become obstructed with ama then there is no free flow of energy in the mindbody  This leads to a buildup of the Vata energy pattern which is freely circulating in the channels(common channels we know from a Western perspective are the GI tract, large vessels like the aorta or vena cava, neural pathways, and the respiratory system)

Vata, when obstructed in the channels, causes pain  In Ayurveda there is no pain without Vata  So in the IC bladder pain syndrome pain is related to clogged channels from ama accumulation and the blockage of the free flow of Vata  Often this is neurologic like pain and follows what I have written about in earlier blogs about the origin of the syndrome

As you can see, keeping the channels open is essential for keeping vatagenic pain in check  It is also important for immunity, and overall health  To keep the channels open, it is important to eat fresh food with spices that help digestion so that ama is not formed  When ama (partially digested food) is formed, its sticky nature blocks the channels and aggravates vata  Also spices in your food, give a general warming effect to the whole body which helps to keep the channels open, and vata flowing

5 Ways to Prevent and Clear Pain

Staying warm  The Vata energy pattern has the qualities of cold, light mobile, dry, rough, subtle, and clear so when we don’t stay warm this can increase the Vata guna of cold and increase our pain  Think about it….if you get cold the mindbody contracts  Don’t let your feet get cold  Don’t eat cold food and drink  You might think ice cream is vata-pacifying because it’s dairy but it’s not  It is actually vata-aggravating  Anything cold you put in your system closes the channels and blocks the flow of vata   That’s why you get a headache if you eat cold things quickly

Transdermal creams can be used for pain control with reasonably good effect  One has to be consistent, persistent, and disciplined in their use but if applied properly they can be effective

Nutrition that causes pain   Large beans, bananas, winter squashes and extra heavy foods are all known in Ayurveda as visthambi, (clogging to the srotas or channels)  Avoid these items in your diet and you will find your channels are more open, and your vatagenic pain is less  Also avoid the nightshades (potatoes, tomatoes, bell peppers, eggplant) because these toxic plants block the vibrational channels (nadis), which can subsequently cause the physical channels (srotas or channels) to shrink

Avoiding leftover foods or pre-packaged foods is important too  These foods are not easily digested by the body and result in ama right away  This promotes clogging of the channels and lessen the free flow of Vata

Daily schedules  Regular routine is Vata pacifying so daily schedules are irregular and hectic(Vata provoking) there will be a tendency to increase the Vata energy pattern

 

IC and Ways to Reduce Inflammatory Behaviors

Posted by on Nov 13, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic fatigue syndrome, chronic pelvic pain syndrome, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, Uncategorized, vulvodynia | 2 comments

IC and Ways to Reduce Inflammatory Behaviors

From an energy science view the symptoms of interstitial cystitis(IC) are related to the hot quality among others   The burning on urination that feels like razor blades, the suprapubic or vaginal pain, the perineal pain of prostatitis are all related to this energetic quality that is in excess At this blog I have discussed extensively how the nutritional format is fundamental in clearing symptoms   From my research 91% of patients doing aloe and a nutritional format that reduces this hot quality get 50% relief of symptoms in 6 weeks But...

read more

Expectations About Healing IC

Posted by on Sep 16, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, Uncategorized, vulvodynia | 2 comments

Expectations About Healing IC

Obviously this is a common question posed by those doing energy science work for clearance of their IC complex of bladder pain and possibly IBS, GERD and fibromyalgia As a child you may have asked, “Are we there yet?” and “Now are we there yet?”  So when will this IC be over?   The short answer is, “It’s over when it’s over.”  But to be more specific, in general it takes 2 months of release for every year of imbalance   So if you have had symptoms of IC for 10 years it will take 20 months of work to clear the...

read more

3 Therapies to Heal IC

Posted by on Sep 10, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, vulvodynia | 0 comments

3 Therapies to Heal IC

The IC bladder pain syndrome(interstitial cystitis, vulvodynia, prostatitis, IBS, GERD, and fibromyalgia) produces not only bladder pain that can be intermittent(as in flares) but also often involves the vaginal canal(vulvodynia),  pelvic floor muscles, and often the rectum   And as is common with all people with IC there are some forms of bowel involvement with symptoms since from an energy science point of view the disease arises from the GI tract The Rectum and the Pelvic Nerves? IC is a systemic disease  Many matter science medical...

read more

IC and Botox Injections

Posted by on Aug 21, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, vulvodynia | 4 comments

IC and Botox Injections

Over the last 20 years the interstitital cystitis(IC) complex of pelvic and bladder pain has been successfully treated by urologists with botox  Initially used as a way to focally paralyze muscle fibers in the face as a cosmetic application, it quickly crossed many lines of therapy for use in other organ systems in the body to include the bladder The use of the agent in bladder injection therapy is that the bladder and pelvic pain is related to muscle spasm in these respective areas that paralysis of the muscles would reduce the pain Matter...

read more

The Good News About IC

Posted by on Jul 23, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, Uncategorized, vulvodynia | 5 comments

The Good News About IC

The pain of your IC flare is related to the movement of the qualities of hot, mobile, and dry   These qualities lead to the burning in the pelvis and on urination as well as the frequency and intense urgency you experience(leading to the rusty zipper syndrome) These primordial vibrational frequencies(fancy term for qualities) are moving through a long tube in the mindbody   This tube begins in the kidney and ends where the urine comes out when you urinate   It’s that simple!    Energy in the form of urine moves through this...

read more

IC and Cooling Drink

Posted by on Jun 25, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, Uncategorized, vulvodynia | 8 comments

IC and Cooling Drink

The inflammation that occurs with your IC bladder pain syndrome(interstitial cystitis, vulvodynia, chronic prostatitis, GERD, IBS, and fibromyalgia) as we’ve talked about in the past is from the hot and mobile qualities from an energy science viewpoint As you know this pain can be excruciating and unrelenting causing undue stress on relationships and plans And there are things that we have discussed that can help with temporary relief of symptoms  But what would it be like it you lived a life without any bladder symptoms at all  This...

read more

IC and Vulvodynia/Chronic Prostatitis

Posted by on Jun 20, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, vulvodynia | 29 comments

IC and Vulvodynia/Chronic Prostatitis

As you know the pelvic pain from IC can be so severe that it precludes having normal sexual activity  In a survey done through the ICA organization 90% of IC patients report problems with intimacy   And the majority of women(50-85%) have associated vulvodynia or pain specifically related to the vagina  For reasons not clear, ICA dropped the reference page to this statistic  The stats come from a response survey of an IC population culled from members of the organization  This numbers have been substantiated by other research The fear of...

read more

IC and 3 Things to Deal with Food Allergies

Posted by on Jun 14, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, CPPS, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, Uncategorized, vulvodynia | 11 comments

IC and 3 Things to Deal with Food Allergies

Interstitial cystitis (IC) painvsyndrome(intersitial cystitis, vulvodynia, chronic prostatitis, IBS, GERD, fibromyalgia)  is often associated with other conditions such as  food allergies or sensitivities and GERD which we have written about in the past   This is difficult to understand from a molecular approach to dis-ease since the model looks at the problem within an organ system without taking into consideration the interrelationship of all organ systems This is frustrating to physicians as well as patients seeking to understand the...

read more

The Upsetting Character of Nuts

Posted by on Jun 4, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, vulvodynia | 2 comments

The Upsetting Character of Nuts

The interstitial cystitis(IC) bladder pain syndrome(interstitial cystitis, vulvodynia, chronic prostatitis, IBS, GERD, fibromyalgia)with flares can be amplified by the routine use of nuts of any kind and this includes their butters!!  Peanut butter, almond butter, cashew butter Why? Unlike the matter science(MS) nutritional information that fatty acids are good and bad, the energy science(ES) of Ayurveda states that all nuts are inflammatory due to these molecular fatty acids regardless of the “good or bad nature of them”   The...

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IC and the Neti Pot

Posted by on May 14, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, vulvodynia | 5 comments

IC and the Neti Pot

Kapha is the energy pattern of stability in the physiology  It is composed of the qualities of heavy, slow/dull, cool, slimy/smooth, liquid, dense, soft, hard, static, and sticky  Think of the mucous from the common cold and you will have a good understanding of the qualities of Kapha which supports bodily structures When Kapha becomes excessive in the physiology it brings the static and heavy qualities in excess which block the lighter qualities of Vata and Pitta which are the primary instigators of the symptoms of the IC bladder pain...

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IC and the Restaurant: I Think I’ll Order Some Inflammation Today

couple feeding yogurtAs I muse through the menu at my favorite restaurant, I can hear myself in the process of selection

“Hmmm, this looks particularly good-lots of congestion and inflammation there”

“Or maybe some cooling? Oh no no, that’s not tasty enough”

“Well maybe just this time”

From an energy science view, the effects of the foods that we consume begin before we even put them in our mouths Does that sound surprising? Many of those with the IC bladder pain syndrome(interstitial cystitis, vulvodynia, chronic prostatitis, IBS, GERD, and fibromyalgia) have a good understanding that foods can play a pivotal role in the progression of the disease  But this point often can become ambiguous in IC circles because actually the way the matter science choses the foods that are bad choices in IC circles is through anecdotal reporting  Although there is nothing wrong with this approach it falls sort of the way the energy science decides which foods are good or bad choices

Behavioral Choices Can Bring Nutritional Confusion

Our unconscious behavioral eating patterns begin in the mind so it makes sense that the health of our mindbodies become directed by our unconscious choices

This concept is so far removed from our current matter science or molecular approach which is devoid of being able to factor the mind in the equation of foods and their selection

Let’s pause and consider that whatever we are putting in our mouths at any point in time has the ability to make us sick or bring about balance

We currently don’t have the concept from our matter science model of healing that disease begins with the ingestion of taste(energy) If I’m a Pitta Kapha and snarfing down a banana I’m inflamming my physiology and asking for congestion

And is it wrong to have a banana? No, not from an energy science view The key as we have discussed in the past is to be aware of how the foods impact us from a sensory point of view

We intellectualize about foods from a matter science view but from an energy science view the ingestion of any food has the capability of teaching us more about ourselves

Have you had the experience of food making you feel bad? Did this become a recurring theme? Did it take a number of days before the ingestion of a particular food made you feel bad?

A New Science…Nutrigenomics

Now the matter science has a new way of looking at food…. through the lens of how foods affect our DNA  And indeed as predicted by the energy science 1000’s of years ago foods impact the expression of our DNA  Begun in 2003 this new science, called nutritgenomics, studies how foods affect the molecular expression of your DNA

The energy science of Ayurveda sees DNA as the most subtle molecular expression of mind  And so how we nourish ourselves energetically directly impacts our DNA expression through the science of nutrigenomics but those same foods bring about either mental clarity or confusion  This can affect our next behavioral choices with respect to food and other lifestyle choices

So the bottom line?  Foods affect us far more than we can imagine and directly affect our success in healing the IC bladder pain syndrome

 

IC and Ways to Reduce Inflammatory Behaviors

Posted by on Nov 13, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic fatigue syndrome, chronic pelvic pain syndrome, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, Uncategorized, vulvodynia | 2 comments

IC and Ways to Reduce Inflammatory Behaviors

From an energy science view the symptoms of interstitial cystitis(IC) are related to the hot quality among others   The burning on urination that feels like razor blades, the suprapubic or vaginal pain, the perineal pain of prostatitis are all related to this energetic quality that is in excess At this blog I have discussed extensively how the nutritional format is fundamental in clearing symptoms   From my research 91% of patients doing aloe and a nutritional format that reduces this hot quality get 50% relief of symptoms in 6 weeks But...

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Expectations About Healing IC

Posted by on Sep 16, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, Uncategorized, vulvodynia | 2 comments

Expectations About Healing IC

Obviously this is a common question posed by those doing energy science work for clearance of their IC complex of bladder pain and possibly IBS, GERD and fibromyalgia As a child you may have asked, “Are we there yet?” and “Now are we there yet?”  So when will this IC be over?   The short answer is, “It’s over when it’s over.”  But to be more specific, in general it takes 2 months of release for every year of imbalance   So if you have had symptoms of IC for 10 years it will take 20 months of work to clear the...

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3 Therapies to Heal IC

Posted by on Sep 10, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, vulvodynia | 0 comments

3 Therapies to Heal IC

The IC bladder pain syndrome(interstitial cystitis, vulvodynia, prostatitis, IBS, GERD, and fibromyalgia) produces not only bladder pain that can be intermittent(as in flares) but also often involves the vaginal canal(vulvodynia),  pelvic floor muscles, and often the rectum   And as is common with all people with IC there are some forms of bowel involvement with symptoms since from an energy science point of view the disease arises from the GI tract The Rectum and the Pelvic Nerves? IC is a systemic disease  Many matter science medical...

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IC and Botox Injections

Posted by on Aug 21, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, vulvodynia | 4 comments

IC and Botox Injections

Over the last 20 years the interstitital cystitis(IC) complex of pelvic and bladder pain has been successfully treated by urologists with botox  Initially used as a way to focally paralyze muscle fibers in the face as a cosmetic application, it quickly crossed many lines of therapy for use in other organ systems in the body to include the bladder The use of the agent in bladder injection therapy is that the bladder and pelvic pain is related to muscle spasm in these respective areas that paralysis of the muscles would reduce the pain Matter...

read more

The Good News About IC

Posted by on Jul 23, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, Uncategorized, vulvodynia | 5 comments

The Good News About IC

The pain of your IC flare is related to the movement of the qualities of hot, mobile, and dry   These qualities lead to the burning in the pelvis and on urination as well as the frequency and intense urgency you experience(leading to the rusty zipper syndrome) These primordial vibrational frequencies(fancy term for qualities) are moving through a long tube in the mindbody   This tube begins in the kidney and ends where the urine comes out when you urinate   It’s that simple!    Energy in the form of urine moves through this...

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IC and Cooling Drink

Posted by on Jun 25, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, Uncategorized, vulvodynia | 8 comments

IC and Cooling Drink

The inflammation that occurs with your IC bladder pain syndrome(interstitial cystitis, vulvodynia, chronic prostatitis, GERD, IBS, and fibromyalgia) as we’ve talked about in the past is from the hot and mobile qualities from an energy science viewpoint As you know this pain can be excruciating and unrelenting causing undue stress on relationships and plans And there are things that we have discussed that can help with temporary relief of symptoms  But what would it be like it you lived a life without any bladder symptoms at all  This...

read more

IC and Vulvodynia/Chronic Prostatitis

Posted by on Jun 20, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, vulvodynia | 29 comments

IC and Vulvodynia/Chronic Prostatitis

As you know the pelvic pain from IC can be so severe that it precludes having normal sexual activity  In a survey done through the ICA organization 90% of IC patients report problems with intimacy   And the majority of women(50-85%) have associated vulvodynia or pain specifically related to the vagina  For reasons not clear, ICA dropped the reference page to this statistic  The stats come from a response survey of an IC population culled from members of the organization  This numbers have been substantiated by other research The fear of...

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IC and 3 Things to Deal with Food Allergies

Posted by on Jun 14, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, CPPS, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, Uncategorized, vulvodynia | 11 comments

IC and 3 Things to Deal with Food Allergies

Interstitial cystitis (IC) painvsyndrome(intersitial cystitis, vulvodynia, chronic prostatitis, IBS, GERD, fibromyalgia)  is often associated with other conditions such as  food allergies or sensitivities and GERD which we have written about in the past   This is difficult to understand from a molecular approach to dis-ease since the model looks at the problem within an organ system without taking into consideration the interrelationship of all organ systems This is frustrating to physicians as well as patients seeking to understand the...

read more

The Upsetting Character of Nuts

Posted by on Jun 4, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, vulvodynia | 2 comments

The Upsetting Character of Nuts

The interstitial cystitis(IC) bladder pain syndrome(interstitial cystitis, vulvodynia, chronic prostatitis, IBS, GERD, fibromyalgia)with flares can be amplified by the routine use of nuts of any kind and this includes their butters!!  Peanut butter, almond butter, cashew butter Why? Unlike the matter science(MS) nutritional information that fatty acids are good and bad, the energy science(ES) of Ayurveda states that all nuts are inflammatory due to these molecular fatty acids regardless of the “good or bad nature of them”   The...

read more

IC and the Neti Pot

Posted by on May 14, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, vulvodynia | 5 comments

IC and the Neti Pot

Kapha is the energy pattern of stability in the physiology  It is composed of the qualities of heavy, slow/dull, cool, slimy/smooth, liquid, dense, soft, hard, static, and sticky  Think of the mucous from the common cold and you will have a good understanding of the qualities of Kapha which supports bodily structures When Kapha becomes excessive in the physiology it brings the static and heavy qualities in excess which block the lighter qualities of Vata and Pitta which are the primary instigators of the symptoms of the IC bladder pain...

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IC and Transdermal Creams: Ways to Begin Healing IC

Downward gati with pelvic marmaIn the energy science disciplines of Ayurveda and traditional Oriental medicine(TOM) the use of topographical points on the skin are used for treatment of various disease states  In TOM these points are called acupuncture or acupressure points  In the energy science of Ayurveda these points are called marma points  There is some variability in terms of location and what they represent but the utility of use is undoubtedly valuable

In conventional medicine today the use of transdermal therapies has had a wide application utilized mostly as a delievery system  These pharma systems are designed to get molecules into the body that would otherwise be digested in the gastrointestinal tract(GIT) and rendered useless  A good example is that of the testosterone molecule that is digested in the GIT  Because of this no functional hormone support can be acheived by taking it orally  But with the use of the transdermal delivery system testosterone can be effectively absorbed across the skin to provide its physiologic benefits

In the IC bladder pain syndrome(interstitial cystitis, vulvodynia, chronic prostatitis, IBS, GERD, and fibromyalgia) we can make use of marma points to deliver herbs into the mindbody for healing

Marma and Transdermal Creams

There are specific marma associated with the bladder and pelvic plexus of nerves associated with IC   From an Ayurvedic point of view the IC bladder pain syndrome is probably a neurological involvement of the pelvic plexus by imbalancing qualities that pass from the lower rectum and energetically affect the functioning of the pelvic plexus

Transdermal creams can be made so that they can take the herbs across the skin and deliver their effects to target tissues of the mindbody  The carriers are energetic vehicles move the finest of vibrational frequencies of the herbs to the respective locations in this case the pelvic plexus  The carries move through the nadis and hair follicles of the skin and attach to the synapses of nerve endings leading to distant effects

The point is that the nerves essentially carry the vibrational frequencies

Uses of Transdermal Creams

1 Pain control  There is no pain without the mobile energy pattern of Vata which is most expressed in the the nervous system  So when we use transdermal creams and affect the nervous system directly we have the chance to change pain

2 Therapy for conditions  Conditions for chronic diseases will best respond to the the use of transdermal creams because they address the chronic imbalances that occur in tissues

3  Bringing overall balance  By affecting the tissues and eliminating imbalances we have the chance to reverse disease

 

IC and Ways to Reduce Inflammatory Behaviors

Posted by on Nov 13, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic fatigue syndrome, chronic pelvic pain syndrome, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, Uncategorized, vulvodynia | 2 comments

IC and Ways to Reduce Inflammatory Behaviors

From an energy science view the symptoms of interstitial cystitis(IC) are related to the hot quality among others   The burning on urination that feels like razor blades, the suprapubic or vaginal pain, the perineal pain of prostatitis are all related to this energetic quality that is in excess At this blog I have discussed extensively how the nutritional format is fundamental in clearing symptoms   From my research 91% of patients doing aloe and a nutritional format that reduces this hot quality get 50% relief of symptoms in 6 weeks But...

read more

Expectations About Healing IC

Posted by on Sep 16, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, Uncategorized, vulvodynia | 2 comments

Expectations About Healing IC

Obviously this is a common question posed by those doing energy science work for clearance of their IC complex of bladder pain and possibly IBS, GERD and fibromyalgia As a child you may have asked, “Are we there yet?” and “Now are we there yet?”  So when will this IC be over?   The short answer is, “It’s over when it’s over.”  But to be more specific, in general it takes 2 months of release for every year of imbalance   So if you have had symptoms of IC for 10 years it will take 20 months of work to clear the...

read more

3 Therapies to Heal IC

Posted by on Sep 10, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, vulvodynia | 0 comments

3 Therapies to Heal IC

The IC bladder pain syndrome(interstitial cystitis, vulvodynia, prostatitis, IBS, GERD, and fibromyalgia) produces not only bladder pain that can be intermittent(as in flares) but also often involves the vaginal canal(vulvodynia),  pelvic floor muscles, and often the rectum   And as is common with all people with IC there are some forms of bowel involvement with symptoms since from an energy science point of view the disease arises from the GI tract The Rectum and the Pelvic Nerves? IC is a systemic disease  Many matter science medical...

read more

IC and Botox Injections

Posted by on Aug 21, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, vulvodynia | 4 comments

IC and Botox Injections

Over the last 20 years the interstitital cystitis(IC) complex of pelvic and bladder pain has been successfully treated by urologists with botox  Initially used as a way to focally paralyze muscle fibers in the face as a cosmetic application, it quickly crossed many lines of therapy for use in other organ systems in the body to include the bladder The use of the agent in bladder injection therapy is that the bladder and pelvic pain is related to muscle spasm in these respective areas that paralysis of the muscles would reduce the pain Matter...

read more

The Good News About IC

Posted by on Jul 23, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, Uncategorized, vulvodynia | 5 comments

The Good News About IC

The pain of your IC flare is related to the movement of the qualities of hot, mobile, and dry   These qualities lead to the burning in the pelvis and on urination as well as the frequency and intense urgency you experience(leading to the rusty zipper syndrome) These primordial vibrational frequencies(fancy term for qualities) are moving through a long tube in the mindbody   This tube begins in the kidney and ends where the urine comes out when you urinate   It’s that simple!    Energy in the form of urine moves through this...

read more

IC and Cooling Drink

Posted by on Jun 25, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, Uncategorized, vulvodynia | 8 comments

IC and Cooling Drink

The inflammation that occurs with your IC bladder pain syndrome(interstitial cystitis, vulvodynia, chronic prostatitis, GERD, IBS, and fibromyalgia) as we’ve talked about in the past is from the hot and mobile qualities from an energy science viewpoint As you know this pain can be excruciating and unrelenting causing undue stress on relationships and plans And there are things that we have discussed that can help with temporary relief of symptoms  But what would it be like it you lived a life without any bladder symptoms at all  This...

read more

IC and Vulvodynia/Chronic Prostatitis

Posted by on Jun 20, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, vulvodynia | 29 comments

IC and Vulvodynia/Chronic Prostatitis

As you know the pelvic pain from IC can be so severe that it precludes having normal sexual activity  In a survey done through the ICA organization 90% of IC patients report problems with intimacy   And the majority of women(50-85%) have associated vulvodynia or pain specifically related to the vagina  For reasons not clear, ICA dropped the reference page to this statistic  The stats come from a response survey of an IC population culled from members of the organization  This numbers have been substantiated by other research The fear of...

read more

IC and 3 Things to Deal with Food Allergies

Posted by on Jun 14, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, CPPS, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, Uncategorized, vulvodynia | 11 comments

IC and 3 Things to Deal with Food Allergies

Interstitial cystitis (IC) painvsyndrome(intersitial cystitis, vulvodynia, chronic prostatitis, IBS, GERD, fibromyalgia)  is often associated with other conditions such as  food allergies or sensitivities and GERD which we have written about in the past   This is difficult to understand from a molecular approach to dis-ease since the model looks at the problem within an organ system without taking into consideration the interrelationship of all organ systems This is frustrating to physicians as well as patients seeking to understand the...

read more

The Upsetting Character of Nuts

Posted by on Jun 4, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, vulvodynia | 2 comments

The Upsetting Character of Nuts

The interstitial cystitis(IC) bladder pain syndrome(interstitial cystitis, vulvodynia, chronic prostatitis, IBS, GERD, fibromyalgia)with flares can be amplified by the routine use of nuts of any kind and this includes their butters!!  Peanut butter, almond butter, cashew butter Why? Unlike the matter science(MS) nutritional information that fatty acids are good and bad, the energy science(ES) of Ayurveda states that all nuts are inflammatory due to these molecular fatty acids regardless of the “good or bad nature of them”   The...

read more

IC and the Neti Pot

Posted by on May 14, 2017 in bladder, bladder pain, chronic prostatitis, fibromyalgia, GERD, IBS, IC, Interstiial cystitis, vulvodynia | 5 comments

IC and the Neti Pot

Kapha is the energy pattern of stability in the physiology  It is composed of the qualities of heavy, slow/dull, cool, slimy/smooth, liquid, dense, soft, hard, static, and sticky  Think of the mucous from the common cold and you will have a good understanding of the qualities of Kapha which supports bodily structures When Kapha becomes excessive in the physiology it brings the static and heavy qualities in excess which block the lighter qualities of Vata and Pitta which are the primary instigators of the symptoms of the IC bladder pain...

read more
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